From: Hal Murray via devel <devel at ntpsec.org>

Gary E. Miller gem at rellim.com
Wed Apr 26 07:06:44 UTC 2017


Yo Hal!

On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 23:29:23 -0700
Hal Murray <hmurray at megapathdsl.net> wrote:

> What's the deal on this?  It's new as of yesterday or today.

Yup.

> Is that a manual configuration step or something that mailman does 
> automagically?

Manual config

> Please cc devel and/or other lists as appropriate.

Only applies to devel at .

This ir a consequence of SPF.  A lot of devel@ email is bunced as
undeliverable.  You have seem this weh your email was removed from
devel@ due to too many bounces.

Many people have their email setup, for very good reasons, to
only be accepted when it come from their own email servers.  

When mailman pretends to be the original sender of email, which is
configured to allow from ntpsec.org, then the recipients reject it.

This has become a large problem for ntpsec, as it has for other mailing
lists.  The only real solutiom is for email from devel@ to be seen as
from devel@, and not pretending to be from the original sender, when it
is not.

Already the bounced email from devel@ has gone down.  This is a good
thing.

If you look  around, you will find that most large mailman site, like
nanog, have already been doing this for a while.

RGDS
GARY
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