ntpmon now has some keystroke commands

Mark Atwood fallenpegasus at gmail.com
Tue Dec 13 20:00:20 UTC 2016


I think we are now bikesheding.  Let someone else driveby command aliases
for ntpmon.

Does anyone else have any ideas for any other data displays to add to it?

..m

On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 11:36 AM Gary E. Miller <gem at rellim.com> wrote:

> Yo Eric!
>
> On Tue, 13 Dec 2016 14:30:26 -0500
> "Eric S. Raymond" <esr at thyrsus.com> wrote:
>
> > > Some of the other commands are toggles.  It would be nice if these
> > > were a three way toggle.  I like to just stab one key over and over
> > > and see the data differentlly.  Not sure how that would work.
> > > Maybe a toggles with p and o toggles with p?  Or get rid of a  and
> > > o, keep p, and have p toggle though all three?
> >
> > All that is too much to remember.  I have just made the spacebar
> > rotate through all three modes.
>
> Love it.
>
> > > Hmm, you may want to reconsider that.  I was instead expecting you
> > > to keep those and add a 'one-shot' mode sort of like ntpq.  But not
> > > a big deal...
> >
> > I had it working like that for a while.  The problem is that there is
> > no way to satisfy all three of the following constraints:
> >
> > 1. ntpmon options have the same semantics as corresponding ntpq
> > options 2. option letters are the same as the corresponding command
> > keys 3. commands are natural mnemonics in English
>
> I think that is over thinking it.  But I do see how a one-shot mode may
> make no sense.
>
> > The simplest way to get to a consistent UI design was to remove all
> > command-line options.  Which is a good idea anyway - less to remember,
> > and the command keystrokes cover the functionality.
>
> The simplest yes, but is that best?  I agree with Achim: let the user
> decide.  It is common in unix to alias commands so you get what you
> want easily.  Some people will always want to see the associations first,
> maybe only.  Others will prefer other things.  Unix is all about choice.
>
> RGDS
> GARY
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