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Eric S. Raymond pushed to branch master
at <a href="https://gitlab.com/NTPsec/ntpsec">NTPsec / ntpsec</a>
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Commits:
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<strong><a href="https://gitlab.com/NTPsec/ntpsec/commit/1ad6b46486e8f8af44bd571bc39f7b74559a668a">1ad6b464</a></strong>
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<span>by Eric S. Raymond</span>
<i>at 2017-08-27T08:26:40-04:00</i>
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<pre class="commit-message" style="white-space: pre-wrap; margin: 0;">More thoughts on NTPv5.
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<pre style="margin: 0;"> <span id="LC125" class="line" lang="plaintext">This chunk system is deliberately more similar to RFC7822 extension</span>
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<pre style="margin: 0;">+<span id="LC128" class="line" lang="plaintext">== Daniel weighs in ==</span>
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<pre style="margin: 0;">+<span id="LC130" class="line" lang="plaintext">There aren't many deficiencies in NTPv4 which can't be fixed by adding</span>
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<pre style="margin: 0;">+<span id="LC131" class="line" lang="plaintext">extension fields. A change big enough to make a version bump</span>
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<pre style="margin: 0;">+<span id="LC132" class="line" lang="plaintext">worthwhile would incorporate at least most of the following:</span>
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<pre style="margin: 0;">+<span id="LC135" class="line" lang="plaintext">something that runs over HTTPS on the NTS-KE port.</span>
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<pre style="margin: 0;">+<span id="LC142" class="line" lang="plaintext">around extension parsing.</span>
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<pre style="margin: 0;">+<span id="LC144" class="line" lang="plaintext">4. Make NTS mandatory. In the NTPv5 packet format, the version, mode,</span>
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<pre style="margin: 0;">+<span id="LC145" class="line" lang="plaintext">NTS unique identifier, and (in client packets) NTS cookie come first</span>
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<pre style="margin: 0;">+<span id="LC146" class="line" lang="plaintext">in plaintext, then the whole rest of the packet is encrypted.</span>
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<pre style="margin: 0;">+<span id="LC148" class="line" lang="plaintext">5. Ditch the useless poll, stratum, refid, and reference timestamp</span>
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<pre style="margin: 0;">+<span id="LC149" class="line" lang="plaintext">fields. Given that all of the above are implemented, origin timestamp</span>
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<pre style="margin: 0;">+<span id="LC150" class="line" lang="plaintext">also becomes redundant (NTS takes the place of its anti-spoofing</span>
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<pre style="margin: 0;">+<span id="LC159" class="line" lang="plaintext">always report accurate, unsmeared time), but standardize a formula for</span>
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