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<p>Hi Dave, <br>
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<p>I am not sure if you understand how a pool is working. Or
probably it's me that I don't understand you ? <br>
If you define a pool like at.pool.ntp.org you get always 4
different IP addresses and also a different set of IP adresses. <br>
Check it out with command "dig at.pool.ntp.org" several times. <br>
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<p>For example in AT there are 4 pools from 1.at.pool.ntp.org till
4.at.pool.ntp.org <br>
So theoretically you could use the 4 from your country. ( in my
case AT is Austria ) <br>
2.at.pool.ntp.org is the only one which has IPv6 addresses too. So
if you have IPv6 too you should use a number "2" server. <br>
And the advantages of using a pool is the fact you get only really
working NTP server addresses and no dead ones. <br>
Therefore if you use some pools there is no need to change any
DNS. <br>
In the pools you get hopefully only stratum 2 servers and higher.
In 99% good enough. If you want to use a stratum 1 you have to
define it as server. And the netiquette says, one should ask the
operator if it's allowed to use it. <br>
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<p>// Hans <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 16.01.25 17:04, Dave Hall via users
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<div>Hal,</div>
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<div>Some further updates and thoughts:</div>
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<div>Regarding the tos minclock config line: I checked one of
my systems that's still running Debian 11 and regular NTP.
This system was quite happy with only two servers. So my
original two-maaster-server configuration was OK (but not
great) until I upgraded to NTPSEC. This is not a complaint
- just me understanding how the problem crept in on me.</div>
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<div>Regarding the number of local masters: I completely
understand why 4 is a realistic minimum. Now that this has
been pointed out to me I will plan to move back to 4 or more
in the very near future. Last night, due to other pressing
issues, I just needed to get my clocks synchronized without
thinking about (planning for) which additional hosts to use
as masters.</div>
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<div>Regarding my question about using a local POOL, my idea
is that I could change the pool membership via DNS without
having to touch a config file on each system. So a pool of
2 servers does seem pointless, but when I add 3 or 4 more it
will be easy.</div>
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<div>-Dave</div>
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<div>Dave Hall<br>
Binghamton University<br>
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10:31 PM Hal Murray <<a href="mailto:halmurray@sonic.net"
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> One last question: What does it take to define a
POOL? Is it just a DNS<br>
> name that resolves to more than one IP, or is there
something more? <br>
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The general idea is that there are many servers in the pool
and there is <br>
some smarts behind the DNS server that will rotate through
the servers to <br>
spread the load (maybe not equally) and will monitor the
available servers <br>
and not use any that are not responding or have a clock that
is way off <br>
(aka broken).<br>
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More info here:<br>
<a href="https://www.ntppool.org/en/" rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.ntppool.org/en/</a><br>
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The client side will try again later when it wants more
servers and toss <br>
out a server from the pool when it stops responding.<br>
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If you look in your log files, you will probably find lots
of clutter.<br>
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In your case, with only 2 servers in the pool, I would use 2
server lines <br>
rather than the pool.<br>
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These are my opinions. I hate spam.<br>
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