Interesting screwup case
Hal Murray
halmurray at sonic.net
Tue Mar 24 18:50:06 UTC 2026
> I think it would be nice if DHCP had a 'new' visitor option to send the
> time.
But then you have to go down the rathole of considering what happens if
that time is not accurate. Let's not go there.
> Also, an option to temporarily waive DNSSEC if the time is before
> BUILD_EPOCH and (probably) revoke those that do not match after the big
> step would be nice. (working on it badly)
So far, there is nothing in DNS that is critical for security. If a MITM
returns bogus data, that can send NTS-KE to the wrong host, but that will
fail the TLS security checks. So I haven't been doing much thining along
that area. It might be interesting for non-NTS setups, but that just gets
less-insecure, not real security.
> Additionally, find out whether Red Hat/Fedora has something else. Also,
> what if the mini-SD card has been offline for more than the duration of
> an involved signature or key?
There is source for fake-hwclock on github, all ready to go. I don't know
why Fedora hasn't grabbed it.
Yes, it fails if the system has been offline too long. I call that the
shelf problem.
> Isn't this almost exactly the plug story for roughtime?
No almost about it.
We can do the same thing with NTS by using self signed certificates with
long lifetimes. It will take a bit more work on the client end to set
things up. I think this deserves more attention. I want to set things up
so a server works with either the normal PKI certificates or a self signed
one, but that gets complicated and I don't understand the details yet.
--
These are my opinions. I hate spam.
More information about the devel
mailing list