Usefuleness of noval (Was: Re: NTS crash...)

Gary E. Miller gem at rellim.com
Wed Mar 27 21:55:31 UTC 2019


Yo Richard!

On Wed, 27 Mar 2019 16:23:19 -0500
Richard Laager via devel <devel at ntpsec.org> wrote:

> On 3/26/19 4:27 PM, Gary E. Miller via devel wrote:
> > I added noval, still can not connect:
> > 
> > server 204.17.205.23 maxpoll 5 nts noval # pi3  
> 
> I wonder if we should revisit "noval". I think I originally argued in
> favor of having it, as a standard TLS client knob. But IIRC, Daniel
> suggested it was pointless.

The pointless proven wrong by the Hackathon.  And still needed today.
 
> Does NTS with noval actually buy us anything over plain NTP?

Yes, it was 100% essential for the NTS hackathon.  Otherwise NTPsec
would not be able to connect to the ostfalia servers.

Still needed today.

Maybe, just maybe, if one of the may flavors of cert pinning worked with
NTPsec then it might only be useful for debugging.

RGDS
GARY
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