Proposal for discussion - remove all Windows-port cruft

[Joel Sherrill]

Removing the support is a big mistake.

The ability for Windows to run Linux binaries is only for Windows 10 and
hasn't shipped yet. According to this article, it is also an optional
feature.

http://www.zdnet.com/article/ubuntu-and-bash-arrive-on-windows-10/

That means that 100% of Windows systems in existence with a released
version of Windows do NOT have this feature.

Removing windows support as it is now kills Windows as a target. I don't
think that is what the project really wants to do.

--joel

On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Joel Sherrill <joel.sherrill at gmail.com>
wrote:

>
> On May 14, 2016 10:06 AM, "Mark Atwood" <fallenpegasus at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the update.
> >
> > Simplifying those bad spots is more important than keeping code we don't
> know works in an OS that nobody can recommend as a good time server.
> >
> > Remove it. Carefully. Try not to cackle maniacally too much while you do.
>
> The ability for Windows to run Linux binaries is only for Windows 10 and
> hasn't shipped yet. According to this article, it is also an optional
> feature.
>
> http://www.zdnet.com/article/ubuntu-and-bash-arrive-on-windows-10/
>
> Removing windows support as it is now kills Windows as a target.
>
> --joel
>
> > ..m
> >
> >
> > On Sat, May 14, 2016, 4:26 AM Eric S. Raymond <esr at thyrsus.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Mark Atwood <fallenpegasus at gmail.com>:
> >> > it sounds like there is no cruft getting in the way of complexity
> >> > headaround or reduction.  leave it be.
> >>
> >> Unfortunately, your premise is not correct; Hal's report was
> >> incomplete.  There are substantial amounts of Windows cruft in some of
> >> the trickiest places outside the port directories, notably the
> >> worker-thread code for async DNS lookup and the network-plumbing
> >> hairball.
> >>
> >> The reason I am pushing on this now is that I'm still casting around
> >> for ways to simplify the hairball to the point where I can really
> >> grasp it. Complexity headaround is the exact issue.
> >>
> >> Removing the Windows cruft won't completely solve the problem, but any
> >> complexity reductions we can get are good.  Enough of them might get us
> >> to where my head doesn't hurt when I look at that code.
> >> --
> >>                 <a href="http://www.catb.org/~esr/">Eric S. Raymond</a>
> >
> >
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