My pre-1.0 wishlist

Hal Murray hmurray at
Mon Jun 6 02:02:18 UTC 2016

esr at said:
> But I can't get from your summary description to code.  So I need a white
> paper from you on applying this technique that turns that theory into
> actionable advice.  How to we test?  What do we test?  What are our
> success-failure criteria? 

We don't need a yes/no answer.  There is a 3rd state: needs-manual-review.  
The idea is to be able to focus the manual review on the interesting cases 
rather than reviewing everything.  To start with, we will have to review 
everything.  When we get familiar with things, we can automate skipping the 
not-interesting cases.  (I think.)

I think I can turn the general idea into at least the start of an outline for 
some code.

Assume the great test farm in the sky.  Machines A, B, and C have good 
refclocks and are setup to watch all the systems we want to test.  (watch == 
server foo noselect)

Ignoring the startup transients (details tbd), scan the rawstats on A, B, and 
C, selecting the lines that refer to machine X.  For each line, compute the 
round trip time and offset.

Make a histogram of the round trip times.  Use coarse bucket sizes (from a 
  There should be none in the first bucket.
  Most should be in the second bucket.
  A few in the 3rd bucket are OK.
  There should be none in the 4th bucket.
There shouldn't be any dropped packets.

Make a similar histogram for the offset with similar bucket logic.
  Offsets should be symmetric around 0 so the details are slightly different.

The bucket slots are setup by hand for each target machine, probably by 
looking at a histogram.  We may have to recalibrate things if the network 
topology changes.

We can probably apply similar heuristics to the target machines loopstats and 

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